This might be a little New Agey but I’ll try to keep it a little more sciency if I can.
I blogged about a month ago about a David Tong video about the simulation hypothesis. That arose from a question in Scott Aaronson’s blog about the fact that the Standard Model could not be simulated on a computer. That fact would suggest that reality is analog not digital. It turns out there is a solution to the problem but the solution involves an extra dimension. Scott has since followed up with a new post on the simulation hypothesis where he mentions the solution.
So what is this extra dimension? Is it the same as the extra dimension in the Kaluza-Klein theory that tries to unify electromagnetism and gravity?
The conventional wisdom is that the extra dimension that solves the problem isn’t a real dimension but an unreal one. So I asked: If an extra unreal dimension is required to make the calculations work, wouldn’t that be indirect evidence we are living in a simulation? All of the dimensions could be unreal. Or, maybe all of the dimensions (and more) are real, but we only think the 3+1 dimensions are real because that is all that is directly useful in the ancestral environment.
Here’s his answer in full.
Ah, who among us can say which elements of our theories are “real,” and which are mere calculational conveniences? ‘Tis a rabbit-hole that stretches all the way back to the dawn of modern physics. Truly, ’tis. 😀
Having said that, I believe there’s at least the following crucial distinction: in Kaluza-Klein theories, and in the modern string theories that build on them, if only we could do experiments at sufficiently extreme energies, the compactified extra dimension(s) would appear just as “real” to us as the 3+1 large dimensions of everyday life. With this solution to the fermion doubling problem, by contrast, the extra dimension would presumably remain empirically inaccessible no matter the energy of our probes. (Though it’s an interesting technical question whether, if you took the solution seriously as physics rather than just as a calculational device, the extra dimension would become accessible from the boundary given high enough energies…)
What if the dimension is real but isn’t spatial?
After all, we already have one dimension that isn’t spatial. We can locate all objects in three dimensional space, but time isn’t like space. It doesn’t have a spatial length. We draw timelines to help us visualize it but it is fundamentally different from a spatial dimension. Time really is just a measure of stuff happening. We have stuff we can locate in space. That’s the where. Stuff happens. That’s the when.
What about the what?
For all I know, Kaluza-Klein and string theory may require that the its dimensions be spatial. However, I’ve thought for a while that something was needed to account for the objects and structures that arise in spacetime. A dimension of form that contains the models for how the universe evolves would solve the “what” problem.
Probably the earliest simulation hypothesis is the concept of maya from Indian philosophy. From Wikipedia: “In later Vedic texts, maya connotes a ’magic show, an illusion where things appear to be present but are not what they seem’; the principle which shows’“attributeless Absolute’ as having ‘attributes’.”
An extra dimension of form seems a little like Sheldrake’s morphic fields.
The hypothesized properties of morphic fields at all levels of complexity can be summarized as follows:
https://www.sheldrake.org/research/morphic-resonance/introduction
- They are self-organizing wholes.
- They have both a spatial and a temporal aspect, and organize spatio-temporal patterns of vibratory or rhythmic activity.
- They attract the systems under their influence towards characteristic forms and patterns of activity, whose coming-into-being they organize and whose integrity they maintain. The ends or goals towards which morphic fields attract the systems under their influence are called attractors. The pathways by which systems usually reach these attractors are called chreodes.
- They interrelate and co-ordinate the morphic units or holons that lie within them, which in turn are wholes organized by morphic fields. Morphic fields contain other morphic fields within them in a nested hierarchy or holarchy.
- They are structures of probability, and their organizing activity is probabilistic.
- They contain a built-in memory given by self-resonance with a morphic unit’s own past and by morphic resonance with all previous similar systems. This memory is cumulative. The more often particular patterns of activity are repeated, the more habitual they tend to become.
I warned you this might be a little New Agey. 🙂
If there does exist a true fifth dimension to reality, it seems to me that by definition it would need to not be spatial or temporal. Also it shouldn’t be anything that we normally perceive, since if we did we’d surely call it something already.
Given the experimental success of quantum mechanics, I presume that at least one more dimension explains quantum superposition, tunneling, and entanglement. But that’s all beyond me so I leave it to specialists to worry about. Theoretically however, nothing exists as either “particle” or “wave”, but rather both. Apparently we notice this duality more for things that are really small. So I could see a dimension related to that circumstance. What I don’t like however is positing new dimensions every time something doesn’t make sense to us. Sometimes we shouldn’t understand things because we’re not thinking about them well enough. So I don’t like proposing new dimensions haphazardly.
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I didn’t get into the consciousness question but some have proposed that the “space” of consciousness is actual located in another dimension. It might be logical that we wouldn’t perceive the dimension since it is container for the three we do perceive. If the dimension is tied to EM via Kaluza-Klein then it would explain how an EM field could manifest it and also how even a fragmented consciousness in 3 dimensions could be unified in it.
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I think if something is truly unavoidable to make the calculations work, we should give serious consideration to whether it’s real in some sense. But to the response you received, “real” can mean different things. I generally take it to mean it interacts with other things we consider real, that it affects those other things and is affected by them. We would also expect it to reconcile with other theories we see as real.
In terms of dimensions, the quantum wave function has a configuration space of totally unbounded dimensions (3N dimensions, where N is the number of particles involved; phase space is even larger). Are these all spatial dimensions in some sense? Or just degrees of freedom related in some manner to the normal spatial dimensions? Or are they pure mathematical convenience? The only thing we can say for sure is they are necessary for a full accounting of entangled particles.
I do think caution is warranted. It has to be true necessity and that’s hard to judge. It’s very easy to fool ourselves into thinking a cool concept is a necessity. The best way to establish it is probably a determined skeptic trying their best to purge it from the theoretical structures. (For example, Max Planck really didn’t want to do quantization, and only gave in to it in desperation.)
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I do think it’s a cool concept and caution is warranted.
As for your questions, I have no idea. In one sense even the spatial dimensions may not be spatial. It’s unclear how much they may simply be something directly useful in the ancestral environment. BTW, the “directly useful in the ancestral environment” was part of a response by Scott to another question about the brain and computing. If to holographic principle is correct for the universe, we may be only living in two dimensions if I understand it correctly.
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The “directly useful” point reminds me of Chalmers’ universal functionalism. In that view, space is whatever plays the role of space. So even if we’re in a hologram, space is emergent from particle physics, we’re in a simulation, or some other incomprehensible reality, space remains real in its functional role for us.
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